Date: December 16, 2014 9:33:47 AM PST
To: People of One Fire
"MA" = "MI = "MY"
"YA = Yeu" = (see Sherwin's compilation)
How many linguists must you defend to avoid thinking that "MAYA" means "My place" in the Old Norse language?
None! If you believe that the people speaking Old Norse rowed boats on rivers and along the coasts of North, Central, and South America. And if you believe that the bad Spanish and WASPs guys covered up their slaughter of Norse Christians..
Take a good look and think about it.
On Dec 17, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Ron Clark wrote:
Evidence of Viking/Norse metalworking in Arctic Canada
DON GREENE wrote:
I do wish I had all of Sherwin’s books and also had the time-energy to re-list all the Norse-Algonquian shared words and phrases in an alphabetical file. Maybe someday.
Myron Paine replied.
Richard Starling shared a section of his DROPBOX with me. We uploaded all the pages of Sherwin's book. You can see every page by clicking through VIKING AND REDMAN .
You can go to HOW to FIND the MEANING of MOST ALGONQUIN WORDS for advice on how to navigate the DROPBOX. All of Sherwin's pages are there. You can search them like reading a book.
NOTE: Most of the states along the Mississippi have Old Norse Names. Alabama does too. Saskatchewan and Quebec are Old Norse Namees. So the route from Hudson Bay to the Gulf of Mexico was named by people speaking Old Norse. Think of men is 20-oar Knarrs towing from Northern Europe to Hudson Bay, rowing or pulling up the Nelson and Red Rivers, floating their boats over the Lenape Waterway in Minnesota to the Mississippi.
The linguists believe their elementary school teachers, who told them that the Vikings stayed at L'anse aux Meadows only a few years and left no impact on North America. Only one university has faculty that think different. The evidence is being suppressed by omission. School kids are not learning that more than 10 states have Old Norse Names.
So we need to get wide discussion going. If the Norse had no impact, why do more than ten states and two provinces of Canada have Old Norse names?
Now a question for you!
Do you have all the pictoglyphs from the Walum Olum in a file that can be emailed?
I am hot on the trail of an engraved cave that allegedly has the history of some Native people of this area from the creation to sometime near or during colonization.
If I had a good syllabary of Algonquian glyphs to compare to that it might speed up the process of deciphering that engraved story
Hang in there my honored brother
Don Spirit Wolf
From: Google+ (RuthAnn Purchase)
Subject: Re: Most authorities will insist that the Norse...
Date: December 19, 2014 8:57:33 AM PST
To: Myron D Paine
Well Put, Grandfather! This is a great way to gather new insights for the next book about the Old Norse ~ Lenape Diaspora (this is the first time I have called it that. Do you like the name?) Where will our virtual collection be housed? Can we fund a traveling team to document some of the sources into one video? I am so eager to hear response to your request! May the Solstice bring new clarity as we come out of the dark, Ankuntuwakan, ~RuthAnn
Telephone conversation with Karl Hoenke, 1:45 PM PST Tuesday Dec. 19 2014.
NOTE: This conversation was recorded after the phone call. The text is not verbatim but does convey the gist of the conversation.
“Did you see my blog where I suggest that Miami, OH and Miami, FL were Old Norse words.”
“I do not think you are wise to debate South East words with Richard. He has lots of knowledge about their derivation. You might string together a bunch of Chinese syllables that sound the same but have no meaning in the Southeast context.”
“You could be right. I remember our experiment on the Tingling Language on the west coast. There I found reasonable sounding Old Norse syllables, but my guess of the meaning proved that the words were not the Tingling language.
ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION (Things I wish I had said in the phone call.)
"Still Sherwin gives Okmulgee and Muskogee the same meaning Richard records. [Muskogee, in fact, is also found near the mouth of the Nelson River and in Georgia. the word means creek or swampy land in both places. That is why the Muskogee are also called the “Creek” and the people in Canada are called “swampy” Cree."
Before contact with Richard, I had read a book entitled “Creeks.” Then, I thought I recognized a few Muskogee words, which had the same sounds and meanings as Sherwin’s words. So I began to look up more Muskogee words. I was surprized that nearly all the words had similar meanings in the Creeks book and in Sherwin. Eventually, I concluded that the Muskogee were speaking Old Norse and, therefore, Algonquin. Since then I have learned that linguists belive tha tthe Muskogee spoke Algonquin. So I could use Sherwin's 30,000 comparisons between Algonquin and Old Norse to decipher words in southeastern United States, which were spoken by people well outside Sherwin's study area.
That successful experience with using Sherwin to translate Muskogee words caused us to consider if I were fooling myself by finding similar meanings and then accepting the sounds recorded by Sherwin. So then we tried the Tingling test where you [Karl] kept the meanings obscured until I had guessed what the Tingling syllables meant.
The fact that I did NOt get the Tingling meanings correct did indicate that the language was different than Old Norse, but, more important, proved that I was retaining Sherwin's meanings correctly. While those meanings did not match written Tingling, they did match Muskogee. Thus Muskogee was a language created by people who spoke Old Norse and Tinling is a language created by people who did not speak Old Norse.
But Richard is not interested in thinking that the Muskogee spoke Algonquin and that, therefore, I can find Muskogee words in Sherwin’s eight volumes.
Richard is fascinated by the Muskogee-Maya relationship. Every Muskogee-Maya word relationship he makes is additional evidence that the Maya were speaking Algonquin and therefore Old Norse.
That relationship takes Sherwin's database far beyond the land of the original twenty five tribes he studied. But my ability to find Old Norse words in Sherwin with the same meaning as the Muskogee means, to me, that Sherwin’s syllables are the correct sounds and meanings for the Muskogee and the Maya languages.
Sherwin has over 30,000 words of evidence that the Algonquian language is Old Norse. If Muskogee is Algonquin, as some linguists now think, then Maya words similar to Muskogee are Old Norse.
Richard’s knowledge of Muskogee language and his extensive study of that language to Maya have opened a field of study that few anthropologists knew existed.
The Maya spoke Old Norse. Thus, the Norse were in North America and IN CENTRAL AMERICA. The knowledge that the American peoples spoke Old Norse from the Hudson Bay to the Panama ismas is fundamental to the correct paradigm of America when the European invasion began.
The two sailors in the mural are more evidence to the the power of the Eurocentric paradigm to profoundly history.
The best way to understand the profoundly distorted history of early America is to accept the evidence that the Europeans exterminated Norse speaking people in order to conquer America. Since the invasion, Europeans and Eurocentric faculties in North American Universities have been suppressing the knowledge that those original Americans spoke Old Norse.
Thus a fundamental piece of knowledge has been suppressed each year from the 3 million school kids, who believe that their teachers are telling them the truth--the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
This map of American Languages before the invasion of the Europeans show that the Algonquin and Muskogee occupied land from the Hudson bay to the Gulf of Mexico. These people spoke Old Norse.
The Norse may have occupied the land now known as Maya in 1400 AD.
The Norse were people of the sea. One of their main boats was the 20-oar Knarr. The Norse could have easily rowed from Greenland to the Ismas of Panama in two summers. Most of the Norse artifacts found in North America, including the Viking Sword, the armor of Paul Knudson, the hundreds of stones with holes in them, the man-modified terrain in Minnesota, the Norse artifacts found in Minnesota, the 44 rune stones and others all lie along the two Norse routes.